tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22873867.post114673292478609379..comments2024-02-02T18:26:56.123+08:00Comments on The Scribe A Kadir Jasin: A KADIR JASINhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05865106109792000636noreply@blogger.comBlogger61125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22873867.post-1149212100062875382006-06-02T09:35:00.000+08:002006-06-02T09:35:00.000+08:00DatoI beg to differ on your opinion that the Avenu...Dato<BR/><BR/>I beg to differ on your opinion that the Avenue-ECM merger is just another typical corporate exercise whereby:<BR/><BR/>1. A smaller company swallowed a bigger company.<BR/>2. The names from ECM Libra are more celebrated than the former Chairman and CEO of Avenue.<BR/><BR/>I hope you are not taking a defensive stance because there used to be a small company said to have started with a paid-up capital of RM100,000 that undertook an RM800 million MBO in a not so distant past.<BR/><BR/>The distinctive difference in that exercise and that of ECM takeover of Avenue is that the small company raised financing to undertake the exercise and everything was done consistent with the "rule of the game". <BR/><BR/>Yes, since the World Cup is just around the corner, I'll try to relate in a language we will be talking in soon. <BR/><BR/>The Avenue takeover (that is what it is anyway) was done with "the referee" seemed to take a blind eye to the infringements. Not only that, the "competition organising comittee" seemed to tell the "oppositing team" to also take a blind eye and let the ECM team win by requesting the Avenue team "play without boots" and the "best players removed". <BR/><BR/>In the "league" of Investment banking, Dato Kalimullah (I would prefer to refer him as Kalimuttu) is no big name. In fact, he is a newspaper man. David Chua and Lee Kian Onn are stockbrokers. KJ, can go around claiming himself as an Investment Banker but how many years as he chalked up in the sports of finance ie stockbroking or fund management or analyst or merchant banking? Again, a few years as cub reporter, assistant principal secretary to politician, Naibketua Pemuda UMNO and his claim of a former job as Fund Manager doesn't even come close to surpass as Management Trainee in Investment Banking.<BR/><BR/>I have analysed the ECM deals and its no Investment Bnaking but intermediary work with much structuring and deal packaging input. They are no CIMB or Arab Malaysian to be compared to (as the Independent Advise, K&N Kenanga tried to justify the valuation)<BR/><BR/>The Avenue takeover is not a case of case of moral issue over legal issue on the part of the Authorities ie subjective valuation versus the breaking of any law. <BR/><BR/>There is a list of improprietaries but I will highlight few.<BR/><BR/>The fixing of ECM based on the pre-suspension price of RM1.06 is blatant market rigging. In a few days (not over a period of time to <BR/>get an average price), ECM shares jumped from the 60-70 sen level and thats more than 30% IN A FEW DAYS.<BR/><BR/>What about the payment of the transaction by issuing share of Avenue at 66 sen (deep discount to NTA value pers hare of RM1.00 per share)? Isn't that intentionally allowing more shares of Avenue issued to ECM shareholders to raise their percentage in Avenue at the expense of Avenue shaerholders? Wonder, who are the Directors of Avenue (majority are representing Goivernment interest albeit rakyat's interest) playing for? And, who instructed the team to play in that manner?<BR/><BR/>Unless the eyes of the authorities are blinkered, we the unblinkered cannot put aside the so-called merging of similar business companies companies whereby one has written of some RM270 million goodwill and the other maintain its RM360 million goodwill to justify valuation. Thats a RM630 million GAP! the Minority Shareholders Watchdog Group concurred in the EGM and papers (except conveniently NST).<BR/><BR/>I can go on and on on the many infringement on the valuations but it woudl not be digestible by the untrained eyes. The spirit of the rules and regulation is as important as the letter. <BR/><BR/>How could an EGM be attended by interested parties namely ECM management team and specifically their CFO Lim Boon Soon? <BR/><BR/>How could the major shareholder that is said to initiate the deal be allowed to vote as an Independent Shareholders to give waiver from a Mandatory General Offer? Now, MGO is meant toprotect otehr shareholders from surprises from a sudden fundamental changes in the Company and in this case change in controlling sharehlder. This are clearly stated rules by SC. <BR/><BR/>I have too many insider informtion from the Directors and professionals who are practising Merchant bankers and officers inside the authorities to not say this deal is about moral issue and no law has been broken. <BR/><BR/>Well, I am a compulsive traffic offender that believes that the traffic rules only applies when there are traffic police around to enforce. The rules are there and the police is there but MANY rules have been broken under the guise of SC approved. Isn't his a case of the policemen blinding their eyes? <BR/><BR/>Dato,<BR/><BR/>This is not about envy or jealousy. Life is not fair, fine. And, I do not care how one make a living or acquire wealth, meaning "how you play the game" but we should respect the rule of the game and play by it.<BR/><BR/>Lastly, enjoy the World Cup, Dato'. I am rooting for the elusive possibility of a South American to win on European soil. Brazil perhaps?<BR/><BR/>A VoiceA Voicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01780035743502972342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22873867.post-1148975089158410892006-05-30T15:44:00.000+08:002006-05-30T15:44:00.000+08:00maaf dato'.. menyimpang sedikit.Melayu bersifat re...maaf dato'.. menyimpang sedikit.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Melayu bersifat rebellion. Demonstrasi terbaru mempamir sikap melayu yang cepat melatah. Antara sifat2 anti establishment.<BR/><BR/>Anti establishment, tidak kira kerajaan apa yg berkuasa akan di tentang. Tidak kira, PAS atau UMNO, anti establishment akan menentang.<BR/><BR/>Melayu perlu merapatkan barisan, lihat IFC dan apa kata merekaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22873867.post-1147856469438478212006-05-17T17:01:00.000+08:002006-05-17T17:01:00.000+08:00salah sejahtera dato'memetik isu 'penyempitan suar...salah sejahtera dato'<BR/><BR/>memetik isu 'penyempitan suara melayu' saya bersetuju dengan pandangan dato'. kebanyakan suara2 melayu di media massa sudah tertapis. ada baik dan ada buruknya. <BR/><BR/>melayu, saluran suara yg vibrant hanya umno, yg lain cuma hanya sekadar memeriahkan majlis sahaja. memetik kata-kata dato' kaum india dan cina punya banyak saluran untuk memperjuangkan nasib mereka; sangat bersetuju! dan amat menarik sekali membaca blog seperti jeff ooi atau lim kit siang. tidak pernah saya membaca blog2 bukan melayu yang menghentam atau membuka pekung di dada kelemahan atau isu2 semasa kaum masing2. mungkin ada, tetapi di dalam akhbar bahasa ibunda mereka. maka kita berbangsa melayu ini hanya peka dengan masalah kita sahaja, dan kita tidak tahu perkembangan kaum lain ( dari permasalahan kepada penyelesaian masalah). mungkin kita terlalu lantang bersuara mengenai nasib melayu sehingga kita mempamirkan kekurangan/kelemahan/keburukan orang melayu itu sendiri.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22873867.post-1147709163877702902006-05-16T00:06:00.000+08:002006-05-16T00:06:00.000+08:00Yo beb! Gua mau komen sikit fasal ini Nazri Aziz. ...Yo beb! Gua mau komen sikit fasal ini Nazri Aziz. Gua tau sangat perangai dia. Lu jangan fikir dia kecik anak! Lu ingat bagaimana Polis dapat tangkap orang gaji dia yang curi barang dan wang dari rumah banglo milik Menteri Kabinet tu? Dia ni dah kenyang beb! Lu ingat dia berjuang untuk agama, bangsa dan tanahair? Lu fikir dalam2 sikit. Gua tertanya2 macam mana Menteri macam dia boleh pungut wang macam tu punya banyak! Ada menteri seperti Mustapha Mohamed yang tak kumpul harta benda dan menagih kekayaaan. Brig Gen Hamid semasa menjadi mentri dulu tak hidup mewah. Duduk di rumah teres di Cheras aje. Nazri lain beb! Dia ni pejuang tulen! Malangnya bukan berjuang untuk rakyat tapi untuk tekaknya saja. Itu fasal boleh kumpul harta yang akhirnya dicuri oleh orang gaji Indonnya.<BR/><BR/>Ada kawan yang kerja hotel bagi maklumat pada gua semalam. Ini bikin gua ketawa. Ini kena mengena dengan Nazri. Gua punya member di hotel Pu3 Pan Pac di JB bagi tau Nazri dah kencingkan hotel tu! Bila Nazri dapat tahu yang Tun Mahathir menginap di hotel tu, dia terus cancell booking beb!! kahkahkah! Gua ingat dia berani cakap berani tanggung. Rupa2nya dia jenis berani cakap dan kemudian lari setelah mengesat punggung! Dia takut nak bersemuka dengan Boss lamanya! Dia ni jenis hipokrit kelas satu!! Bayangkan bahawa satu masa dulu dia orang kuat Pemuda Umno! Rupa2nya dia ni pengecut!<BR/><BR/>Apa salahnya Nazri lagak macam gentleman? Kalau berani kritik Tun Mahathir, apa salah bertentang mata, hulur tangan dan bertegur sapa? Kata member gua dari JB beberapa bilik yang ditempah Nazri akhirnya ditempah orang lain. Malu beb! Baru dengar Tun Mahathir menginap di hotel yang sama dah pucat dan langsung tak tunjuk muka. Orang macam ni memang tak boleh harap! Yang menaruh harapan pada dia ialah PakLah. Jangan2 satu hari nanti Nazri akan mainkan Paklah juga.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, gua ada lagi cerita2 menarik dari JB. Nanti bila gua free, gua sambong cerita. Ini KadirJasin pun satu hal juga, dia mesti ada banyak cerita tentang perayaan Umno di JB tapi gua ingat dia simpan dulu dan kemudian baru komen. Ok beb! Jumpa lagi..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22873867.post-1147540746044352292006-05-14T01:19:00.000+08:002006-05-14T01:19:00.000+08:00Datuk, isu yang Datuk bangkitkan saat ini (dan 10 ...Datuk, isu yang Datuk bangkitkan saat ini (dan 10 tahun lepas) pernah juga saya suarakan di Harakahdaily.net seperti link berikut: <BR/><BR/>http://www.harakahdaily.net/article.php?sid=5872 (Mancari Melayu Alternatif, 29 Januari 2004) <BR/><BR/>Saya kira isu ini harus terus dipanjangkan dan diperdebatkan lagi oleh orang Melayu sendiri ... <BR/><BR/>Antaranya, dalam artikel saya tersebut, saya mencatatkan: <BR/><BR/>Sebab-sebab tidak muncul “suara ketiga” orang Melayu boleh dihuraikan dengan panjang lebar. Tetapi yang meresahkan penulis, kelihatan tidak terdapat azam politik di kalangan orang Melayu sendiri – seperti budayawan, ahli akademik, saintis, sasterawan, birokrat, seniman, profesional atau wartawan – untuk membentuk dan membesarkan suara “alternatif” mereka. <BR/><BR/>Seolah-olahnya mereka tidak nampak (atau takut memikul amanah?) akan muncul gejala-gejala merosakkan daripada dua aliran sedia ada ini. <BR/><BR/>Orang Melayu tidak mempunyai pilihan yang banyak, tidak seperti kita ke pasar borong dengan segala macam ikan atau sayur, tidak dapat menilai isu-isu dengan lebih bebas dan adil, tidak ada nuansa atau spektrum dalam wacana Melayu. <BR/><BR/>Ada kecenderungan malah, wacana Melayu dan ke-Melayu-annya berbentuk klise, dangkal dan terbatas – sebahagiannya akibat tekanan politik hegemoni dua arus besar Melayu ini. <BR/><BR/><B>Fathi Aris Omar</B>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22873867.post-1147529832659926882006-05-13T22:17:00.000+08:002006-05-13T22:17:00.000+08:00DatukAbout ECMLibra merger/takeover of Avenue. Thi...Datuk<BR/><BR/>About ECMLibra merger/takeover of Avenue. This will soon turn into a very,very hot issue and may even threathen the credibility of the PM personally if not properly managed(spinned). This time his son in law Khairy is very publicly involved here.(By the way this is public information by virtue of ECMLibra being a public listed company)<BR/><BR/>Let's get the cat out of the bag. Of the four you mentioned, apparently Kalimullah is also the main man in the New Straits Times and everybody in the know,knows that he is the unofficial image guardian/spinmaster of the present PM, that makes him exceptionally influential don't you think? I don't know about the other two persons you mentioned Datuk, I guess they are there to just fill in the numbers; how lucky can you get? <BR/><BR/>I am also not a corporate person. That qualifies me to ask a a few not so clever questions;i.e is it logical that a large public listed entity can allow itself to be taken over by a smaller public listed entity, never mind that the smaller entity has as directors the likes of Kalimullah and Khairy? <BR/><BR/>Shouldn't the Securities Comission question both the Board of Directors of ECM Libra and Avenue on the possible benefits/disadvantage of this event to the minority shareholders or holistically the corporate ethics of the takeover/merger?<BR/><BR/>The Securities Commission's silence is most DEAFENING. Would it not in future threathen investors confidence(foreign and local fund) in our Bursa Saham for along time to come?<BR/><BR/>I think that when you are in a position of power/influence or very close to the power that be, the very fine line between wrong moral ethics and abuse of power is very,very,very difficult to distinguish.<BR/><BR/>I hope that the PM takes some time to examine this unhealthy corporate development, as it affects his standing in the eyes and psyche of the rakyat, coming so soon after the ill advised 30sen rise in fuel price and the cancellation of the scenic bridge and the coming rise in electrical rates. Please Datuk PM, do not say that you don't know or you are not involved.<BR/><BR/>We the rakyat who are Malays, Chinese and Indians VOTED FOR YOU to be PM and together with the BN to lead and rule the country and we are all for WAWASAN 2020 and the prosperity of MALAYSIA.<BR/><BR/>P.s Datuk PM,in the last General election WE DID NOT vote for the likes of Kalimullah and Khairy, they should not be allowed to do things at will.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22873867.post-1147508853287732872006-05-13T16:27:00.000+08:002006-05-13T16:27:00.000+08:00a man (anonymous malay), was walking towards MOF f...a man (anonymous malay), was walking towards MOF for a normal meeting, browsing tru documents, after d meeting, one of national auditor (anonymous non-malay) came up to him for a brief chat said "are trying to save the country?" sambil tersengih hairan.. "kita kerja for them, just work for them sajala,btw good luck".<BR/><BR/>honestly, theres some ppl(profesionals) tried to stop d effort by putting logics but honestly they can do nothing for their effort is naive.<BR/><BR/>the "org bawah" r just doing their work as they r nothing but to do their duty bound as in contracts.these ppl has family to feed.they r the innocent for their being nature.<BR/><BR/>the "org berkenaan" is d ppl u cant trust likely.they play their roles to nothing for most ppl are ignorant,while d resistance tru d honest ppl nowhere to be seen.its just being this ppl with power will corupt but power without responsibility is the most corrupt.<BR/><BR/>im sorry for being too undirective for these person might get a blacklist.these ppl has organization to take care and family choose to pick my writes as fitnah doesnt bother me.<BR/>what bother me is my country.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22873867.post-1147421458887676292006-05-12T16:10:00.000+08:002006-05-12T16:10:00.000+08:00Can someone rip the DVD and create "torrent" so th...Can someone rip the DVD and create "torrent" so that all of us who doesn't have a clue where to get it also can view it. Let's share it via P2P! Or does the DVD copyrighted? I hope TDM doesn't mind if any of you pirated his DVD.<BR/><BR/><BR/>--<BR/>Another Anoymous ReaderAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22873867.post-1147410070741732582006-05-12T13:01:00.000+08:002006-05-12T13:01:00.000+08:00By the way drmuzi (and other readers) Tun Dr Mahat...By the way drmuzi (and other readers) Tun Dr Mahathir's DVD story is covered quite extensively by Malaysiakini. Thank you for alerting me to that.A KADIR JASINhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05865106109792000636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22873867.post-1147378359190087202006-05-12T04:12:00.000+08:002006-05-12T04:12:00.000+08:00"The Voice" asked" What's happing to the NST latel..."The Voice" asked" What's happing to the NST lately? The answer is, I don't know. Do you?<BR/><BR/>All that I know is, those who bought its shares under ESOS -- employees share option scheme -- before the year 2000 because they loved and trusted the company are suffering.<BR/><BR/>From the "highs" of RM5 to RM7 a share, the NSTP shares are now being traded on Bursa Malaysia at around RM2.20. Most exercised their ESOS above this price. They are losing.<BR/><BR/>I won't venture to say anything about its editorial because I am, as far as the current team is concerned, is "a bad person" and I am "full of venom".<BR/><BR/>These days you can't even speak up against the newspapers that you subscribe to and read.<BR/><BR/>Manybe this is the true meaning of freedom and openess!A KADIR JASINhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05865106109792000636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22873867.post-1147361814101231042006-05-11T23:36:00.000+08:002006-05-11T23:36:00.000+08:00DatoI believe what Shahrir is doing is dangerous b...Dato<BR/><BR/>I believe what Shahrir is doing is dangerous because it will upset the consensual spirit that exist amongst the various races under the leadership of the son-of-soil of the country.<BR/><BR/>I do not like to believe what is see is really what is happening. MP jaisn maybe like any other Malaysian Businessmens, Malay or CHinese or any race, always hoping they can get away with paying tax. Whether one pay or not, ultimately it falls on government officer to carry out their job.<BR/><BR/>MP Jasin has been described as "celupar" by many for he has been very vocal in Parliment voicing concerns of the people on issues where Government decision is not recieved well by the people.<BR/><BR/>I personally know of issues in which he is the few MPS willing to hear people's grievance on a controversial corporate dcision by Government that is detrimental to Government interest, the people and Malay Agenda (current PM claim as his slogan).<BR/><BR/>I view it as another stiffling exercise under teh so-called openness being claimed by brendan pereira. <BR/><BR/>What happening to NST lately? You care to share with us?A Voicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01780035743502972342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22873867.post-1147353988957169572006-05-11T21:26:00.000+08:002006-05-11T21:26:00.000+08:00DatukIn the days before Merdeka we have the likes ...Datuk<BR/><BR/>In the days before Merdeka we have the likes of brave and honourable people notably Dato' Onn and many more unsung UMNO heroes whose patriotism and love of the country is beyond self. <BR/><BR/>The tradition were carried all the way until Dr. Mahathir retired and passed the baton to our present PM. The present UMNO has a duty of care to recapture the spirit of 60 years ago.<BR/><BR/>Dato Onn lead the Malays and UMNO against the Malayan Union and took on the British Empire and won. The UMNO of today could not even lift a candle to Singapore's PAP going by the decision to cancel the scenic bridge thus surrendering our rights to build within our own borders.The UMNO of today is being slowly but surely wasted away. <BR/><BR/>Look at the lessons of History, look at LDP of Japan, Golkar of Indonesia, history has a knack of repeating itself.<BR/><BR/>If UMNO do not have anybody who is half as brave as Dato Onn or even Dr Mahathir were, who could voice out and advise the UMNO powers that be, I am afraid UMNO will self destruct and go the way of the LDP and Golkar. Only God knows what the future holds, if the present situation persists, the Malays due to our numbers shall still be in power but UMNO may not be able to celebrate its 100th birthday as the ruling party.<BR/><BR/>Happy 60th birthday UMNO enjoy it while you can and god bless.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22873867.post-1147347027446648412006-05-11T19:30:00.000+08:002006-05-11T19:30:00.000+08:00"Jangan kita berani menyergah dan mengherdik pemim..."Jangan kita berani menyergah dan mengherdik pemimpin hanya apabila dia sudah bersara dan tidak lagi berkuasa. Orang Melayu kaya dengan budi bahasa adat dan resamnya. Melayu berani tetapi tidak kurang ajar."<BR/><BR/>Selepas sepuluh tahun rencana SUARA UMNO, MELAYU DAN KERAJAAN tulisan Datuk yang mencetuskan polemik Melayu Hilang Keberanian itu, bagaimanakah keadaannya sekarang?<BR/><BR/>Saya tidak nampak ada banyak perubahan, atau tiada perubahan sebenarnya, tentang persoalan-persoalan yang Datuk bangkitkan itu.<BR/><BR/>Apakah pandangan Datuk selepas sepuluh tahun ini?<BR/><BR/>Hari ini, ulang tahun ke-60 UMNO, saya kembali membaca buku sususan Bung Karim itu.<BR/><BR/>Salam.Noor Azam Shairihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11480089143287826444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22873867.post-1147327154463622362006-05-11T13:59:00.000+08:002006-05-11T13:59:00.000+08:00On Shahrir Samad...the "not to support Opposition ...On Shahrir Samad...the "not to support Opposition in Parlimen" is absurd...what if the issue raised by the Opposition is of public interest...will the 'Don't Support" policy still uphold? What is the meaning of a Parliment then? Is it just a fight against Umno & Opposition or what? Where does rakyat interest come in?This is so sick...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22873867.post-1147317167251726112006-05-11T11:12:00.000+08:002006-05-11T11:12:00.000+08:00Datuk! mngambilkira permintaan datuk saya menyata...Datuk! mngambilkira permintaan datuk saya menyatakan nama saya. Apapun datuk sehingga ka hari ini..peguam negara masih tidak mengeluarkan jawapan teknikal law nya...tetapi bagaimana alasan undang-undang boleh dijadikan alasan untuk membatalkan pembinaan jambatan tersebut dengan kadar yg segera?<BR/><BR/>Istilah perompak dsbnya...saya rasa istilah tidak mencerminkan fitnah.. ianya hanya satu perumpamaan sahaja menjelaskan maksud. Apapun menghormati web datuk saya rasa kita terima.<BR/><BR/>kes ECM libra saya dah hantar ke semua media dan BNBBC tapi masih sepi datuk....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22873867.post-1147231964518425222006-05-10T11:32:00.000+08:002006-05-10T11:32:00.000+08:00Respons kepada A Voice. Terima kasih kerana mengar...Respons kepada A Voice. Terima kasih kerana mengarahkan saya kepada posting kmu. Saya mohon tidak menyiarkannya. Dah banyak orang tahu mengenai kmu. Saya pun baca juga. Lagipun tak eloklah kita guna istilah seperti syarikat yang merompak dan dirompak. Istilah macam tu boleh dianggap memfitnah. Terima kasih.A KADIR JASINhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05865106109792000636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22873867.post-1147226094940191772006-05-10T09:54:00.000+08:002006-05-10T09:54:00.000+08:00DatukI was Anonymous before this as its more conve...Datuk<BR/><BR/>I was Anonymous before this as its more convenient to sent comments to your blog that way i.e just press the "Anonymous tab".<BR/><BR/>I like your blog as your writings are sincere from the heart and it is constructive. I hope that maybe one day you will return to NST and save it from bieng degenerated further by the likes of Kali and his foreign cronies. NST is now like creating a Malaysian Malaysia environment as what Mr. Lee Kuan Yew tried to introduce in his days before separation from Malaysia.<BR/><BR/>Further the comments are moderated unlike Malysia-today and others like it where the comments seemed to be conduits of hate against our leaders past and present. It is indeed sad and worrying that some small minded people can be allowed to write those wrong and hurtful remarks.<BR/><BR/>Thank you for your blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22873867.post-1147215591181168362006-05-10T06:59:00.000+08:002006-05-10T06:59:00.000+08:00No more "anonymous" please!Sdr drmuzi, thank you f...No more "anonymous" please!<BR/><BR/>Sdr drmuzi, thank you for your regular participation. I emjoy your comments and I am sure others feel the same way.<BR/><BR/>But I have not posted your comment on the Umno Youth "roadshow" because there are elements of "biasness" in it. I respect your right. But we are trying to make this blog as non-partisan as possible. I hope Sdr can confine to the bare fact about the seminar, where and when it will be held. I hope you bear with me. Thank You.<BR/><BR/>Also, I am thinking of discouranging participants of this blog from signing in as "anonymous". This is because it's difficult for me and for others to distinguish one anon from the other.<BR/><BR/>The best is to use your true identities -- like I do. Apa nak takut. Kalau kita ikhlas dan waras, tak ada sebab kita nak takut. But if that's not possible, please choose a suitable pseudonym.<BR/><BR/>Thank youA KADIR JASINhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05865106109792000636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22873867.post-1147149849957291422006-05-09T12:44:00.000+08:002006-05-09T12:44:00.000+08:00"The Speaker made a mistake. The Opposition leader..."The Speaker made a mistake. The Opposition leader made a mistake. Those who supported it and those who were against it were also wrong"<BR/><BR/>"The whole situation was wrong".<BR/><BR/>No, Shahrir, no body made any mistake except you. You, in trying to do another cheap political stunt, fumbled. And now, you're trying to make a comeback and try to tell everybody that the whole issue was a non-issue. How cheap are you! As for as I'm concerned, you're a non-material!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22873867.post-1147140289344722102006-05-09T10:04:00.000+08:002006-05-09T10:04:00.000+08:00DatukI wonder if the BN backbenchers understands t...Datuk<BR/><BR/>I wonder if the BN backbenchers understands the principle on how they were elected to parliament.<BR/><BR/>In Malaysia, particularly in the BN, I understand that these wannabe YBs were selected from a long list of contenders by the PM,Menteri Besars and leaders of the various BN component parties. The final list are then allocated to the various parliamentary and state seats. In the general election the campaign line is to ask the rakyat to vote for the BN candidates and it should not matter who the candidates are.<BR/><BR/>Please correct me if I am wrong,so once elected to Parliament and State Assembly these BN YBs are therefore beholden to BN and its policies.<BR/><BR/>As a matter of principle don't you think that it is only right if the individual or group of BN MPs who decided to vote against BN or as they say vote according to their conscience, do the HORMAT thing and resign first as they were not elected as individuals but were elected on the BN ticket.<BR/><BR/>As an example the so called "man of principle" aka Datuk Shahril MP of JB did not care to listen to the the majority of Johor Bahru folks who wanted the scenic bridge. That is OK for BN. But if he voted for the Opposition motion against BN, then it is only right that he should resign not just as chairman of BBC but also as BN MP of Johor Bahru, don't you think.<BR/><BR/>To test the above, lets pose a challenge to ALL the BN backbencbenchers who of late were bitten by these alien but wonderful democracy bug called "CONSCIENCE". Resign as BN MPs, go into the By elections as an independent against another BN candidate then and only then you will know whether the rakyat supports you or not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22873867.post-1147138154358031702006-05-09T09:29:00.000+08:002006-05-09T09:29:00.000+08:00Dato',Apa nak jadi dengan ahli Parlimen dan para m...Dato',<BR/><BR/>Apa nak jadi dengan ahli Parlimen dan para menteri kita gamaknya? Semuanya kelakar. Apa yang perlu saya buat Dato'?<BR/><BR/>Saw Shahrir's reflective mood in today's Page 4 NST. The picture tells everything about him! Maybe he needs another big mirror at home for more self reflection!<BR/><BR/>Oh mirror, mirror, who's the "dumbest" of them all?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22873867.post-1147100943592892902006-05-08T23:09:00.000+08:002006-05-08T23:09:00.000+08:00Pardon me for saying, I am afraid some of us are g...Pardon me for saying, I am afraid some of us are getting a bit too emotional, resulting in our comments being a bit too graphic.<BR/><BR/>Let's remind ourselves once again of the ground rules. The limit that we should go is to call someone a clown. Even that should be said with style and finesse.<BR/><BR/>Referring to one's genital should be off limit. In any case, it has never been scientifically proven -- haha -- that one's bravery is dependent on his reproductive organ.<BR/><BR/>As for drmuzi, I take note of the Umno Youth event he mentioned.<BR/><BR/>Thank You.A KADIR JASINhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05865106109792000636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22873867.post-1147096218853674782006-05-08T21:50:00.000+08:002006-05-08T21:50:00.000+08:00Allow Us To Vote On Motions Based On Our Conscienc...Allow Us To Vote On Motions Based On Our Conscience, Says Rosli<BR/><BR/><BR/>KUALA LUMPUR, May 8 (Bernama) -- The Barisan Nasional Backbenchers Club (BNBBC) Monday asked the executive to allow members of parliament to vote based on their conscience in any motion moved in Parliament.<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>mula2 shahrir letak jawatan...najib terima....ahli parlimen pulak hari ni mintak kuasa lebih tak terikat sangat dan nak lantik shahrir lagi....terang2 tak setuju ketua whip punya decision....mt umno pulak lepas bincang terima perletakan jawatan shahrir...letih aku baca..wayang kulit apa dia orang ni nak main...<BR/><BR/>mana pergi menteri senior yg jaga parlimen tu..benda macam ni tak reti nak handle ka...berkokok saja lebih...patut dia resign..pasai tak reti nak jaga ahli2 parlimen...tu lah lain kali jgn tunjuk cerdik sangat...mulut tu jaga sikit...org tua kena hormat..jgn bila org dah tak ada kuasa macam2 je berani cakap...cakap pun merapu...sorry datuk...geram sikit...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22873867.post-1147085048589038892006-05-08T18:44:00.000+08:002006-05-08T18:44:00.000+08:00TM amat mengetahui selok belok politik negara dan ...TM amat mengetahui selok belok politik negara dan dlm bentuk teknikal.walau beliau pernah membuat silap,namun jika saya mengambil sikap pragmatik,maka beliau dilihat begitu kental dlm soal yg prnah dbangkitkan.cth,proton,mvagusta,bridge.proses penyingkirian pengaruh beliau sudah bermula lama.hingga ketahap menjemput ke majlis perkahwinan pun dipulaukan.namun TM tidak mengambil peduli setakat majlis perkawinan.remeh sgt.<BR/><BR/>namun,sbg rakyat,suara beliau adalah yg paling berkesan.perjuangan beliau boleh mengegarkan.tidak terlawan kuasa undi rakyat biasa dan suara rakyat biasa.berapa ramai pemimpin yg berani melawan arus kpd yg benar.<BR/><BR/>tidak perlu refomasi jalanan,perang antara melayu,AAB lemah dari segi pentadbiran.sebagai org baru,ketika berniaga,lebih ramai org umno berada di gerai berbanding yg duduk d dlm dewan untuk mendengar.namun,apa yg patut dibuat bg AAB mendengar bahwa negara dipandu oleh pemuda2 30an?<BR/><BR/>blog ini sy minati kerana tiada perbincang spt dlm m-today.net yg bersikap sgt kasar dan bias melampau dlm pandangan.bravo to commentors yg mungkin terdiri dari profesional malaysians.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22873867.post-1147082906080461882006-05-08T18:08:00.000+08:002006-05-08T18:08:00.000+08:00Kalau kerajaan taknak jual pasir, kenapa Syed Hami...Kalau kerajaan taknak jual pasir, kenapa Syed Hamid datang Johor Bahru beritahu 5 Bahagian UMNO yang pasir itu hasil bumi yang boleh terisi semula selepas di korak berberapa lama maka kita boleh gunakan dia sebagai pendapatan kepada negara jika di jual. Kerajaan cakap lain, menterinya cakap lain, patutlah pemimpin bawahan UMNO dah macam nak gila.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com